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There are some good use cases for AI

… There are some good use cases for AI. I ended up with a positive ROI on a greenfield project myself, albeit on a small scale. The way that AI has been making people have totally irrational decisions on executive, pure business and technical standpoints is simply mindblowing. I don't understand how people can't take a step back and see what's actually happening from a macro perspective.

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> Companies hopefully follow a PnL model. Eh... this is HN. The goal is precisely to reach BS escape velocity and SpaceX is the model to follow. It's not healthy IMHO (I'm not an economist) but that's definitely the arm race VCs actually fund. Lose for years if not decades, achieve market dominance, squeeze. Very very few winners and for those the path is precisely NOT to follow PnL.

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Gambling. Crypto. Tulips. Ponzi Schemes. Easy money always nets the suckers. You see it enough times and you just sigh. This to shall pass. After enough bullshit people will become fed up and enforcement of existing laws will start breaking up the most egregious items. New laws will pass. People will make and lose fortunes, and we will live on.

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I'll take the contrary position and say that I think the "tokenmaxxing" we've previously seen was useful (but shouldn't continue indefinitely). My TLDR position is that TokenMaxxing was a way to force discovery of Product Market Fit. The push by companies to incorporate AI into everything is (depending on the company) either hype and cargo-culting or it was an attempt by management to (1) try and discover if/what new workflows or tools could use it and (2) force the haters to use as it got better. Where I work, there is an obvious split between people who have been willing to use AI, and those that hated it from day 1 and mocked the "stochastic parrots". Senior folks were disproportionately haters, and generally didn't see much productivity lift from early AI stuff. They strongly resisted the mandates to use AI, and completely missed the "agentic" inflection point that other colleagues e…

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Human systems are not good at rapidly adapting to change. AI could be absolutely perfect and we'd still struggle to deploy it in a value generating way simply because it will exceed our ability to adapt. So tokenmaxxing might be the wrong thing to do, but only because it's focussing on the wrong problem rather than because it doesn't actually work.

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