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I don't think I've ever been on such a rollercoaster with a company's reputation in the developer …

I don't think I've ever been on such a rollercoaster with a company's reputation in the developer space. I started in January on the $20 plan, essentially my first agentic AI programming. I quickly started hitting limits developing several apps at the same time. I went up to the $200 plan after seeing the value. After seeing my own issues with 4.6 and the mega-post on Github about declining metrics in a decent dataset of claude chats by Stella Laurenzo at AMD ( https://github.com/anthropics/claude-code/issues/42796 ), I downgraded to the $100 plan. Hallucinations. Laziness. Lack of thinking. The responses on those mega-threads from Anthropic rubbed me the wrong way in a "you're holding it wrong" kinda way. In the past week, I downgraded back to the $20 plan because the Codex $20 plan on 5.4 was working so well for me. Then throw in other oddball events like the source code leak, and the super positive Anthropic events like their interactions with the current administration. It's a wild ride. I can't understand removing Claude Code from $20. …

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JM

Same loved them, told my team about them, got them to switch off of cursor, now I'm telling them to swap to Codex. Anthropic really pissed me off with their harness crap. They're well within their rights but their communication over it was enough to get me to swap. I don't need extra hurdles when there's a perfectly valid alternative right there. They don't have the advantage they think they do.

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EL

I had a similar ride, but disagree with your conclusion. Opus 4.7 is so incredibly powerful from my experience, that nothing else really matters and I think at Anthropic they know it. People will pay a lot for access to this model.

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ST

Hmmm.. I don't see even one commenter asking Claude about this Yes! Claude Code is included with the Pro plan. Claude The free Claude plan does not include it — you need at least a Pro subscription ($20/month) or API credits to access Claude Code. Howdoiuseai A few things worth knowing about Pro + Claude Code: Claude Code draws from the same token budget as your regular Claude usage on subscription plans. Once you hit your limit, you either wait for the window to reset or pay overage at standard API rates. SSD Nodes The Pro plan works well for development, small projects, and learning, though you may hit usage limits with extensive coding sessions. ClaudeLog If you have an ANTHROPIC_API_KEY environment variable set on your system, Claude Code will use that API key for authentication instead of your Pro subscription, which would result in API usage charges rather than using your plan's in…

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EL

Matches my experience very well. All the goodwill earned from taking a stand against the DoD seemingly forgotten in a month. Coincidentally, I canceled my pro subscription and got set up with OpenCode and OpenRouter last night.

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AL

> I can't understand removing Claude Code from $20 Not according to their webpage: "Claude Code is included in your Pro plan. Perfect for short coding sprints in small codebases with access to both Sonnet 4.6 and Opus 4.7." [1] [1]: https://claude.com/product/claude-code

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ZO

I think removing Claude Code from the $20 tier is a terrible idea, I never would've gone from nothing right into the $100/200 tier. The $20 plan let me get my feet wet and see how good it could be, and in less than a week I was on the $100 plan. I think they need to at least have a 1 month introductory rate for the max plan at $20, or devs that decide to try out agentic coding just won't go to Anthropic. That leads to downstream impacts, like when a company is deciding which AI coding tools to provide and the feedback management hears everyone is already used to (e.x.) Codex, then Anthropic starts losing the enterprise side of things.

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YI

LLM monsters are deeply unprofitable, going by the industry hearsay (which is the only thing we have, given ultra secrecy of the LLM corporations). The only two LLM companies which disclosed their finances without lies, were two Chinese corporations and they, unsurprisingly, were deeply in red. Remember the old saying about boiling a frog? LLM corporations need to make most of their users pay hundreds per month, asap. This is Anthropic increasing temperature regulator under the pot just a tiny little bit. Not the first and not the last time.

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SU

> I can't understand removing Claude Code from $20. I'm interested to see whether this is confirmed or not. Anthropic bleeds money per user. No matter if it's the $20 or $200 plan, every Claude Code user is unprofitable. The only way to not bleed money is to eventually move everyone to API pricing. Hiring a personal senior engineer will likely be cheaper.

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