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It sucks the joy out of it because to the extent that you build something with AI, (Obama voice) …

It sucks the joy out of it because to the extent that you build something with AI, (Obama voice) you didn't build that. I am allergic to the concept of developing with AI, especially for personal work, because AI-authored code isn't something I built , it's something I commissioned . It's like if I went onto Fiverr or Upwork with a spec and paid money and said "Here, build this" to a freelancer and then went back and forth with that person to correct and refine the result. I might get a halfway decent result in the end, but I don't get the experience of solving the problem myself. Experience solving problems yields new insights. It's why math textbooks have exercises: the only way to grasp the concepts is to solve problems with them. With AI, you are no longer a developer, you're a product manager, analyst, or architect. …

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J1

Happy for everyone who enjoys it. For me it's the opposite: AI everywhere sucks the joy out of it and I'm seriously starting to consider a career shift after roughly 10 years of writing code for a living.

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WI

The problems I've been working on are at a much higher level than the nuts and bolts. I'm currently exploring domain-specific languages aimed at writing web applications. I've been particularly interested in, much like bash, data flowing through pipelines. I have spent quite a bit of time and I'm definitely not vibe coding but I've probably only writen 1-2% of the code in these projects. It is so much work to build out a new language with a surrounding ecosystem of tooling. Not even five years ago this would have necessarily been a full time multi-year endeavor or at least required a team of researchers. Now I can tinker away in my off hours. This is what I am exploring: https://williamcotton.com/articles/the-evolution-of-a-dsl Did I not craft the syntax and semantics of these languages?

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GX

Huh? What about all the open source software you use, did you build all of it? What about the phone in your hand, did you design that? HN loves to believe they are the noble few - men and women of math and science, driven by nothing but the pure joy of their craft But this whole AI thing has been super revealing. Almost everyone here is just the same old same old, only that now that the change is hitting close to home, you’re clutching your pearls and lamenting the days when devs were devs The younger generation born into the AI world is going to leave you in the dust because they aren’t scared of it My math teacher used to say that people felt this was about…calculators, imagine that

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