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There's no shortage of "I built it and they won't come" posts here on HN, predating LLMs by decades

… There's no shortage of "I built it and they won't come" posts here on HN, predating LLMs by decades. Because code has never been the hard part of "software as a business ". LLMs have driven this point home. Code has never been cheaper. Business has never been harder.

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Vibecoding is the feeling of coding. It's the same feeling people have when they say they can see the picture in their head, but can't quite draw it.

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SK

This "orchestration" software is about people trying to increase productivity by running many instances of a coding agent on the same project, without stepping on each other too much. It doesn't seem to be fully baked yet. A "shared nothing" architecture where you work have each instance work on a distinct project seems simpler if you want to spin more plates.

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> LLMs have made the musician part automated. They'll play whatever you want I like your metaphor even as someone who can be a bit skeptical of the overly broad promises of LLM’s/AI. But I do think this statement is too generous. It implies way too much actual musical ability. It also means that everything I can imagine musically is possible which it just isn’t, as there are limitations just like with real musicians.

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DR

But also the market for conductors is very small. There are 100 musicians but only one conductor in an orchestra. So what you wrote does not bode well for the profession.

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SU

So then why did MIDI not replace musicians and conductors many decades ago? Why do we even bother thinking in terms of sheet music, or programs in terms of code?

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SU

I agree, and the corollary of this would be that the most senior engineers (who might be at a staff/principal level at a given company) who have the most amount of domain knowledge, deep understanding of various software architectures, and a product/customer oriented mindset may stand to benefit the most from AI-assisted coding, despite some narratives being peddled around by executives that they could do without senior engineers. Unfortunately, for junior engineers the CS path has likely become more arduous, and we'd probably see something more of a doctor-like career path for CS students, where they specialize to obtain deeper architectural knowledge, before receiving employment.

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> Being conductor doesn't take the least skill, it takes the most. I agree with the gist of your comment, but I have to push back on the above statement. Conducting an orchestra is a different skillset than playing virtuoso violin, but it is not more difficult or more important. Its just different. The same applies to any leadership or management position. A very skilled orchestra can in even hide the fact that the conductor is a bit crap. Same with a company or sports team performing so well that they overcome the weaknesses of a lackluster manager. Even though they will still often get the credit.

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Conductor of an orchestra and current skillet of managing a coding agent feels intuitive to me which addresses understanding the differences in management and skill set. Great analogy.

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