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Dealing with any public EU project has been nothing but misery for me personally (as you can …

… Dealing with any public EU project has been nothing but misery for me personally (as you can imagine from this post :) and this environment bred some of the most toxic workplaces I've worked with. The products were universally terrible and rarely actually useful for the purpose. As much as I want independent EU software ecosystem, I don't think using public funding can breed anything but more corruption.

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>The things you see in EU public tenders Can you give examples of what you (obviously, since you're commenting) have seen, and how typical it is?

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The system as bad as it is can be good as well. Let some consultants find out how to get the bids, and others how to do it well, and can be a outsourced third party. It gives differentiation without everyone needing to be large enough to actually bid on the contracts.

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> As much as I want independent EU software ecosystem, I don't think using public funding can breed anything but more corruption. Well, you described what happens when you outsource everything. Governments used to ... gasp ... employ people to do tasks so that you didn't have to outsource every single piddly task. And since those employees could do the tasks, there was a floor such that selecting nobody and doing it in house was always an option. Yes, that has different failure modes. However, you have more levers over those failure modes as opposed to a single lever of "Head to court and try to win a legal case."

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