The conversation

dd_xploreHNSource author
Lessons learnedExperience excerpt · English

You know IMHO Apple doesn't have any 'Pro' machines

You know IMHO Apple doesn't have any 'Pro' machines. A 'Pro' machine isn't about hardware (although it helps), it comes mainly from the software. MacOS doesn't have enough 'openness' to it. There's no debug information, lack of tools etc. To this day I can still daily drive a XP or 98/2000 machine( if they supported the modern web) because all the essentials are still intact. You can look around system files, you customize them edit them. I could modify game files to change their behaviour. I could modify windows registry in tons of ways to customize my experience, experiment lot of things. As a 'Pro' user my first expectation is options, options in everything I do , which MacOS lacks severely. All the random hardware that we see launching from time to time have drivers for windows but not for Mac. Even linux has tons of terminal tools and customisation. MacOS is like a glorified phone OS. It's weirdly locked down at certain places that drive you crazy. Tons of things do not have context menus(windows is filled with it). Window management sucks, there's no device manager! …

Original discussionApple M5 chip1,395 source comments · at import
2

What was this responding to?

Parent context · original excerpt

SO
Sohcahtoa82HN

> - Finder is very mediocre comparing to even File explorer in Windows It really is awful. Why the hell is there no key to delete a file? Where's the "cut" option for moving a file? Why is there no option for showing ALL folders (ie, /bin, /etc) without having to memorize some esoteric key combination? For fuck's sake, even my home directory is hidden by default. > - Scrollbar and other UI issues Disappearing scrollbars make sense on mobile where screen real estate is at a premium and people don't typically interact with them. It does not make sense on any screen that you'd use a mouse to navigate. For years, you couldn't even disable mouse acceleration without either an esoteric command line or using 3rd party software. Even now, you can't disable scroll wheel acceleration. I hate that I can't just make a consistent "one click = ~2 lines of text" behavior. I could go on and on about the…

Full original

Community replies 0

No community replies yet. Add your perspective.

Replies from the source 2

Direct replies available in this import. Original-language excerpts.

AS
astrangeHN

> As a 'Pro' user my first expectation is options, options in everything I do , which MacOS lacks severely. It's a bad idea to add an option entirely for the purpose of making the product not work anymore. https://limi.net/checkboxes > Window management sucks I'm always mystified reading these kinds of posts on HN because it literally always starts out as "macOS is an OS for babies" and turns out to mean "macOS doesn't have a tiling window manager". Like, cmon man, who cares. > there's no device manager! Not even cli tools! `ioreg -l` or `system_profiler`. Why does this matter? > There's no API/way to control system elements via scripting https://developer.apple.com/library/archive/documentation/Ac... https://developer.apple.com/documentation/XCUIAutomation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AppleScript https://support.apple.com/guide/shortcuts/welcome/ios

Full original
NE
NetMageSCWHN

All of that is exactly the opposite of what a Pro machine should be. Pros want hardware that works without fiddling to get their real job done. They know that configuring the OS or adjusting the GUI or discussing File Explorer differences is just a waste of time that has nothing to do with their job.

Full original
Continue on Hacker News

Respect different perspectives. Share concrete experiences.

Sign in to post, reply, repost, and quote.