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For me the big blockers for GrapheneOS are still pretty much the same: * The community is …

For me the big blockers for GrapheneOS are still pretty much the same: * The community is unnecessarily toxic from what I've seen: there's a lot of following dogma without asking "why". It leads to this very insular userbase that often turns outwardly toxic towards other projects, which is an issue that goes forever unfixed (ie. This post on the F-Droid forums originally was far more aggressive towards the F-Droid project before moderators edited it to be less aggressive: https://forum.f-droid.org/t/google-will-require-developer-ve... ). Other, older places I've seen this come "from the top" include hostile relicensing of Vanadium's patches to prevent other Chromium forks from making use of them. * Instead of blockading SafetyNet as being a user hostile solution, GOS instead... implements their own version of it. Which is hard to see as anything other than basically recreating the same walled garden you get on stock Android. * Pixel exclusivity is dumb and remains dumb. …

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What safetyNet does GrapheneOS implements of its own? Pixel is better hardware based on project's security requirement. you're simply wrong here. Most of what you're complaining about are upstream Android limitation and problem.

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> The community is unnecessarily toxic from what I've seen I'm a GrapheneOS community moderator and I would disagree with this take. If people have issues with the community and feel that they can't ask "why" then a moderator should help with that. I can assure you we've had talks with "supportive" community members who cause problems. Being supportive of the project doesn't mean they can get away with acting rude towards others. As for the F-Droid post, I never even heard of that post. I don't recognize the username of the user who posted it either. I guess I won't be able to see the original aggressive post, but either way just because someone is a fan doesn't mean the rest of our community is toxic. > Instead of blockading SafetyNet as being a user hostile solution, GOS instead... implements their own version of it. SafetyNet was depreciated, so you must be talking about Play Integrit…

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