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Your assumptions are objectively incorrect

Your assumptions are objectively incorrect. That's the old way of applying to jobs and, while it may still work, it didn't work for me or anyone else I've talked to that has looked for a tech job in the last year. If you have an "in" with somebody at the company you're applying to, then yes, that absolutely increases your chances of your resume at least being looked at by someone in the hiring chain. Barring that, though, cold calls are extremely unlikely to get you anywhere. As far as job applications go, AI-driven applicant tracking systems (ATSes) are what handle the majority of resume submissions now, and they absolutely does do not give a shit about thoughtful, artisanal resumes or job applications. More likely than not, it's a matter of what keywords an automated system seems in your resume that determines whether the company even bothers reaching out to you. And given that most companies are seeing 1-2 orders of magnitude more job applications now, it's incredibly unlikely a human is going to see your resume unless it passes the ATS filtering process. …

Original discussionTell HN: My advice after I applied to 450 positions before getting hired180 source comments · at import
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Reading your advice, I think that explains why it took 450 applications. Nobody liked spray and pray, AI generated resumes. In my experience it’s much better to spend much more time on a target application to a company you’ve researched and maybe reached out to people or met current employees.

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> Resume spray-and-pray is unlikely to get you good results, but that's not what the OP described. Gotta disagree with you there, given the post says: > My advice to other engineers on the job market: > 1) Spray and pray.

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I got one the old fashioned way in about six months and less than 50 applications. This was a few weeks ago.

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My question would be why a senior engineer with 15 years of experience doesn't have an "in" with someone at several companies.

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BA

I got a job by just picking a telephone. Recruiter called looking for someone with similar experience. One one hour long interview later, I was hired. I'm a senior data engineer with experience in financial companies.

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