… I wonder if comments like this are more of a reflection on how bad the hiring pool was even a few years ago than a reflection of how capable LLMs are. I would be distraught if I hired a junior eng with less wherewithal and capabilities than Sonnet 3.7.
Original discussionWhy LLMs can't really build software504 source comments · at importThe author does not understand what LLMs and coding tools are capable of today. > LLMs get endlessly confused: they assume the code they wrote actually works; when test fail, they are left guessing as to whether to fix the code or the tests; and when it gets frustrating, they just delete the whole lot and start over. This is exactly the opposite of what I am looking for. Software engineers test their work as they go. When tests fail, they can check in with their mental model to decide whether to fix the code or the tests, or just to gather more data before making a decision. When they get frustrated, they can reach for help by talking things through. And although sometimes they do delete it all and start over, they do so with a clearer understanding of the problem. My experiences are based on using Cline with Anthropic Sonnet 3.7 doing TDD on Rails, and have a very different experience. …
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This is a very friendly and cordial response. Given that the parent comment was implying that the creators of Zed don't actually know how to build software. Based on their credentials building Rails crud apps, I suppose.
Full originalIt's funny always seeing comments like this. I call them "humans are perfect" comments. We just assume that all human devs are good. I have met so many that reason like a wet paper bag. Arguably having a smaller context window than current LLM. I have seen and used so many buggy software written by humans, that I find it absurd that we expect LLMs to be perfect. If humans are "the standard" for intelligence, then there is no hope for these automated systems.
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