From my experience with sales/PM people at google, they refuse to use internal tools and try to get …

> From my experience with sales/PM people at google, they refuse to use internal tools and try to get Jira and other shit installed. Regardless of the tool quality, just because that's what they learned already. That's when you're supposed to pull the smooth-talking people that are usually in those roles and ask them a very simple question: "Do you want this tool more than you want to be employed?"

Jira's raise to power is one of those things I would never understand. Such a horribly designed tool. Today is much better, yes, but it is so over-engineer and at the same time lacks so many things.

I saw a similar pattern when I worked at Mozilla. We had bugzilla and jira, mediawiki and confluence, irc/matrix and slack, the list goes on... I just checked and https://github.com/mozilla/jira-bugzilla-integration is alive and well.

Man I miss Buganizer... Even in 2017 Google was starting to smell like Accenture and Oracle. Glad i left before Jira was shoved down my throat.

I find this amusing. I have my own preferences too, but I wouldn't dare even suggest an alternative at a trillion dollar/100k+ employee company. Perhaps because I'm fully aware of what a colossal nightmare that would be. There's enormous value in just sticking with what everyone is already using, even if it's objectively worse. There is a breaking point of course, but the more people that are involved.. that other thing better provide tremendous value and you better be prepared to do a lot of convincing.