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Sadly, the lack of good sense and typical selfishness and shortsightedness of a human being means …

Sadly, the lack of good sense and typical selfishness and shortsightedness of a human being means that when you don't, you get the spate of e-bike battery house/apartment/highrise fires that were hitting NYC. You kinda can't fuck around with li-ion. I don't like that my Bosch e-bike batteries have closed-source schematics, software, and chargers (i mean really, what the fuck am I going to steal Bosch), nor that the software that runs on the bike is utterly locked down to the point where I can't even pay for a copy (it's available only to e-bike dealers and none of them have leaked it as far as I can tell), but unfortunately, I have no trust in my fellow schmuck to not accidentally or negligently build bombs when they rebuild their battery packs, nor would I trust them not to do stupid shit with the e-bike software like remove speed limiters. I barely even trust myself to rebuild packs, and I kinda-sorta know what I'm doing, which is just enough to get myself into trouble. I still look at the two packs I have rebuilt with a side-eye, months and years on from when I built them.

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Jesus, they have a battery handshake? We truly do own nothing.

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> nor would I trust them not to do stupid shit with the e-bike software like remove speed limiters. I’m not going to lie, this is the first thing I would do if I could flash e-bike software.

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This kind of comment is ridiculous in light of the last hundred years of transportation which worked on gasoline , a highly flammable liquid fuel that can even explode under some circumstances. Why do we trust people to handle gasoline safely, but Li-ion batteries are a bridge too far? I'm tired of being treated like an idiot consumer because someone, somewhere, fucked up their Li-ion battery.

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This is a ridiculous point of view. Those things are not mutually exclusive; you do not need to have complete proprietary lockdown to have a properly built quality battery. Humans will lie and cheat for profit but at the same time humans also build locked batteries. It's just that nowadays we take away responsibility of people and their choices and we don't want to deal with the fact that when someone is buying a shitty poorly built copy, they are the ones at fault because of their greed. You could very much have an open market (and should) it's just that people would rather believe there is nothing wrong when they buy something that is suspiciously cheaper than it should be. Greedy corporations are at the origin of the problem precisely because they try to extract too much for their stuff, selling it at what is an unreasonable price. You cannot at the same time blame people for their po…

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