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I have points to burn, so I'll post, because I know this will scratch some folks the wrong way- …

I have points to burn, so I'll post, because I know this will scratch some folks the wrong way- apologies in advance. I use Windows. In fact, I like Windows. I know lots of (ok, more than 5) greybeards who feel exactly the same way. I don't want Linux to be Windows, but I also don't want Linux on my personal desktop either. I have a Mac Mini M1 on my desk, and I use that for the things it's good for, mainly videoconferencing. It's also my secondary Adobe Creative Suite machine. On my Win11 desktop, I have WSL2 with Ubuntu 24.04 for the things it is good for- currently that's Python, SageMath, CUDA, and ffmpeg. For my Unix fix, I use Git Bash (MSYS2) for my "common, everyday Unix-isms" on Windows. I also use PowerShell and Windows Scripting on my box when I need to. Why? Well, firstly, it's easy and I've got stuff to do. Secondly, cost is not really an issue- I bought my Windows Pro license back with Win7, and it was about $180. That was maybe 15 years ago. They have graciously upgraded me at every step- Win7 -> Win10 -> Win11, all at no cost. …

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TLDR: I’ve got stuff to do. I feel exactly the same way. I recently bought my father-in-law an M4 iMac which he thought was a disproportionately nice gift for no apparent reason. Oh there are some very compelling reasons for it. My tech support load went way down and he’s super happy. Win-win.

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> sub-par desktop experience. I strongly disagree. Linux (KDE) is a far superior desktop experience these days, compared to Windows 11. Have you even seen the new Win11 taskbar and the shitty Start Menu - they ruined something which they perfected in Win7. The overall UX has taken a deep dive - like with the unwanted removal of classic Control Panel applets like "Window Color and Appearance" (which doesn't have a replacement), and the continued bolting-on of unwanted crap like Copilot and forced MS Accounts - like, even the CLOCK app requires you to sign-in (why?) [1]. There are even ads in MS PAINT [2]! Tell me if this is acceptable? > It will always take a herculean effort to stay on par with Windows or MacOS, and no one really wants to put their money where their mouth is. I also disagree with this, in fact, Linux has surpassed Windows and macOS in many areas. Take updates for instanc…

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Windows is still enshittified and everyone needs an exit plan. For family users I recognize macOS. For windows apps I have virtualized win11 IoT with a passed through GPU. My monitor has multiple inputs and I can't even tell it's not native.

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I have the same experience. I've tried to use Linux as a desktop since 2000. And tried and retried. Year after year and distro after distro. Until I realized the desktop experience on Linux will never be on par with Windows, that I need things to just work instead of constantly fiddling to make them work. I discovered that Gimp is not Photoshop and Libre Office is not MS Office. And I discovered that running things under Wine are not always great. I discovered I need and want to run Windows software. I discovered that I like the hardware to work out of the box. For me, Windows is great as a desktop. And I develop microservice based apps that run under Linux containers/Kubernetes in cloud. Docker Desktop, WSL and Hyper-V are taking care of all of my potential Linux needs. I also have a MacBook Pro, but I don't care much about the OS, I mainly bought it for the good battery life and use it…

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> But the most important reason? My hardware is supported. My monitors look great; printers, scanners, mice and USB drives & keys all work. In fact, >90% of the time, everything just works. the only thing I have had issues with is one printer, and one graphics card with many machines over 20 years, so I would say I Linux manages better than 95% "just works".

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