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I mean I literally "tried it again" this morning, as a paying Copilot customer of 12 months, to the …

I mean I literally "tried it again" this morning, as a paying Copilot customer of 12 months, to the result I already described. And I do not want to "try it" - based on fluffy promises we've been hearing, it should "just work". Are you old enough to remember that phrase? It was a motto introduced by an engineering legend whose devices you're likely using every day. The reason why "everyone", including myself with 20+ years of experience is looking to do not "fun stuff" (please don't shove words into my mouth), but cool stuff (=hard problems) is that it produces an intrinsic sense of satisfaction, which in turn creates motivation to do more and eventually even produces wider gain for the society. Some of us went into engineering because of passion you know. We're not all former copy-writers retrained to be "frontend developers" for a higher salary, who are eager to push around CSS boxes. That's important work too, but I've definitely solved harder problems in my career. …

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That scene is changing so quickly that you will want to try again right now if you can. While LLM code generation is very much still a mixed bag, it has been a significant accelerator in my own productivity, and for the most part all I am using is o1 (via the openAI website), deepseek, and jetbrains' AI service (Copilot clone). I'm eager to play with some of the other tooling available to VS Code users (such as cline) I don't know why everyone is so eager to "get to the fun stuff". Dev is supposed to be boring. If you don't like it maybe you should be doing something else.

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bobxmaxHN

None of this stuff even existed 3 years ago and you're asking like we're talking about self-driving cars. What hubris. My god.

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Steve Jobs may be a legend at business, but an engineer he is not. To say nothing of the fact that whole reason "it just works" is because of said engineering. If you would like to be the innovator that finally solves that, then great! Otherwise you're just bloviating, and by god do we already have enough of that in this field. I'm approaching 20 years of professional SWE experience myself. The boring shit is my bread and butter and its what pays the bills and then some. The business community trying to eliminate that should be seen as a very serious threat to all our futures. AI is an extraordinary tool, if you can't make it work for you, you either suck at prompting, or are using the wrong tools, or are working in the wrong space. I've stated what I use, why not give those things a try?

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cmaHN

Copilot doesn't use the full context length. Write scripts to dump relevant code into claude with it's 200K or the new Gemini with even more. It does much better with as much relevant stuff as you can get into context.

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joquarkyHN

> is that it produces an intrinsic sense of satisfaction, which in turn creates motivation to do more and eventually even produces wider gain for the society. Which society? Because lately it looks like the tech leaders are on a rampage to destroy the society I live in.

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