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The illusion you appeal to is so common, it ought have a name

The illusion you appeal to is so common, it ought have a name. I guess something like the "reptition-automaton illusion", I don't know or perhaps "the alienation of the mind in creative labour" . Here's a rough definition: the mistaken belief that producing repetitive products employ only repeatable actions (, skills, etc.). A clear case: acting. An actor reads from a script, the script is pregiven. Presumably nothing could be more repetitive: each rehearsal is a repeat of the same words. And yet Antony Hopkins isn't your local high schooler, and the former paid millions and the latter not. That paralegals work from the same template contracts, and produce very similar looking ones, tells you about the nature of what's being produced: that contracts are similar, work from templates, easily repeated, and so on. It really tells you nothing about the work (only under an assumption we could call "zero creativity"). …

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> An "AI Agent" replacing an employee requires intentional behaviour: the AI must act according to business goals, act reliably using causal knowledge of the environment, reason deductively over such knowledge, and formulate provisional beliefs probabilistically. I mean this in the least cynical way possible: the majority of human employees today do not act this way. > The vast majority of our work is already automated to the point where most non-manual workers are paid for the formulation of problems (with people), social alignment in their solutions, ownership of decision-making / risk, action under risk, and so on. This simply isn't true. Take any law firm today for example - for every person doing the social alignment, ownership and risk-taking, there is an army of associates taking notes, retrieving previous notes and filling out boilerplate. That kind of work is what AI is aiming t…

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It is also about responsibility. If something is wrong you can blame the human. Blaming the AI is not acceptable.

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zhivotaHN

This is probably the best description of the central issue I've seen. I know even in my own work, which is a very narrow domain in software, I've found it troublesome to automate myself. Not because the code I write is unique or all that difficult, but because the starting conditions I begin with depend on a long history of knowledge that I've built up, an understanding of the business I'm part of, and an understanding of user behavior when they encounter what I've built. In other words, I can form a prompt that often one-shots the code solution. The hard part is not the code, it's forming that prompt! The prompt often includes a recommendation on an approach that comes from experience, references to other code that has done something similar, and so on. I'm not going to stop trying to automate myself, but it's going to be a lot harder than anyone realized when LLMs first came out.

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coliveiraHN

You're correct, but what can be affected is the number of workers. Considering the example of the acting career, in the old times every major city would have a number of actors and playhouses. Cinema and TV destroyed this need and the number of jobs for local actors is minuscule now.

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girvoHN

This comment has communicated what I've been struggling to for months now, and in a much more succinct and clear way. Well done :)

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