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In my experience, a lot of the talk about AI making engineers obsolete is coming from people that …

In my experience, a lot of the talk about AI making engineers obsolete is coming from people that have some odd, deep-seated hated towards SWEs. I don't know why people in tech receive so much vitriol compared to all other white collar workers but they definitely do. I have a family member who genuinely hates SWEs and the "lazy dorks" in tech, but, it's like, Buddy, your wife works in tech... You worked at a tech startup that failed...You are now trying to start a startup with only an AI writing the software. You are in tech! But, since he can't read or write code and just delegates to an AI, it's somehow different in his mind. It's honestly exhausting to be around.

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NI

I'm unemployed now and trying to look for work, but the sheer amount of "AI is going to take over" is making it really hard for me to get excited about learning new tools. I know this is self-defeating, but between how fast the programming landscape already changes and this, it just feels like I'm in an industry that is so hostile to its own inhabitants. Whereas when I was a professional Ruby programer, everything was nice, because the community really cared about making developers lives nice.

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NI

I can tell you why people hate tech... becuase so much of it is built poorly and causes nothing but frustration for people. These people are stuck on calls with robots when they need help, or angry that they lost a password and need to prove their identity, they are irritated by broken, ad riddled websites. I used to think I'd be part of the solution... but these days it really feels like nobody in the industry is willing to admit how bad it is.

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It may be that software development is less gatekeeped than other white collar jobs. No degree, no certification to get started. Thus seen as "lazy". Paid for sitting on your ass. Or it may just be the high school mentality carried over into adulthood. In other words envy. The "dorks" are supposed to stay miserable. Not do what they like and earn good money from it. No surprise it's seen different from being a founder or a manager. Our culture respects these occupations more. They may be in "tech" but they are for sure not the "lazy dorks" the developers are.

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JA

Yeah it ruined numerous relationships in my life. My brother in law turned into a total luddite and liar due to my tech career. He foams at the mouth with stories about Indian's replacing us all. I've thought a lot about it and I believe it's because tech is one of the few careers that has a ton of freedom. In normal job markets we can switch companies easily. We can go raise money and start our own companies etc. Most other careers are do x, y, z then you might have your choice of 1 or 2 employers that you then are mostly stuck working for. I think a lot of people are very threatened by that freedom.

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I would associate these hatred manufactured by “influencers” on social media. Try checking out the fantasy/lies they constantly peddle. It is natural for a normal person to feel hatred when someone putting 5% effort and making google L6 salary somehow(honestly, I don’t even know where these influencers make such salary). While I can say a lot of things, see if you can look at some of these influencer videos/reels on normal people’s timeline, the content is bizarre and goes maximum effort to garner envy, by reducing the entire profession into “learn to code and make millions”. For you/me, we recognize this bs immediately, but for normal people, it is painful when you see that someone is making 350k+ and having time to push out reels all day while also travelling and collecting sports cars/bikes and promoting bill gates/jeff bezos revenue generation per hour. I am unsure if I ever saw such…

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RS

> You are now trying to start a startup with only an AI writing the software. You are in tech! But, since he can't read or write code and just delegates to an AI Oh, yeah, that’ll go well.

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> In my experience, a lot of the talk about AI making engineers obsolete is coming from people that have some odd, deep-seated hated towards SWEs. I’m not convinced it’s hate, but a general misunderstanding of what a SWE does. If you haven’t spent a long time doing it, you might be under the impression it’s mostly about producing lines of code, not trying to figure out what the ticket says should to be done, what can be done and what actually needs to be done and who’s the person(s) that might have the answers. Writing code is the easy part.

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AP

It's the pay. People know it's a high paying profession that nerds do, and that makes them mad. Similar kind of thing for people who work in finance

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