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IMHO an opt-out system is never going to work for this

IMHO an opt-out system is never going to work for this. Story time: while I still worked at Facebook, there was a company wide project for data attribution to comply with opting out of personalization (I believe to comply with an EU directive but don't quote me on that). The idea was to identify the source of any data by esentially tagging it on a granular level. This affected all the offline data procesing and ML processes but also code (online and offline) where various tools and systems were being built to analyze sites of data usage to detect use of personalized data and respect opt outs where applicable. I made two predictions at the early stages of this: 1. The tools and systems would tell us "all data is used for everything" and 2. Creating new non-personalized data pipelines and add things to them would be far easier and faster than trying to remove personalzied data from existing pieplines. Then, things like ad performance become an optimizatino problem with a clear benchmark (eg new unpersonalized ad serving pipeline vs the old personalized pipeline). …

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> The tools and systems would tell us "all data is used for everything" Reminds me of the tendency in program analysis to just spit out top (e.g. all possible values) because the state space overwhelms automated reasoning, and the only way back is annotating/rewriting code to help the analyzer forward. But, as someone who doesn't think/deal with data much, this is a surprise to me. It makes sense though. Does this mean our data is forever tainted, as were? Since you've been proximate to this work: do you think there's any hope in flipping the script such that possessing/processing this data is a liability rather than an asset? That's one of the few ways I can see to align incentives between highly monied-interests and the targets of data collection. (I'm doubt this will happen in the US in my lifetime, barring a major, 9/11-level event where abuse of this data is directly tied to the cat…

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When I'm met with the response/resistance of "if you care so much then just OPT-OUT! " my usual retort is: "if it weren't just about money, it'd be OPT-IN." Almighty Dollar™, god...

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