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I was surprised after meeting an analytics team (consisting of software engineers, data engineers, …

I was surprised after meeting an analytics team (consisting of software engineers, data engineers, analysts) in my local state-run health system that all of them were women -- then I learned that so were most of the engineers throughout the organization and similar organizations in the area -- overwhelmingly women, older too. Not 20 or even 30 somethings, but people who graduated decades ago. I did some more poking around LinkedIn, looking at other state run services, like our local utility companies -- where again, most of the analysts and software engineers were older women. I knew already that there was a huge divide in salary and culture between the highly paid software engineers at coastal startups + FAANG companies and all the folks that run critical infrastructure for state and local governments, health systems, and boring enterprise companies, but I wonder if the people in those roles tend to skew older and female too. …

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That's too bad. I was a minor supporter, in honor of my mother, who got started with coding around 1950. It's weird... when I was growing up, the only coders I knew were women -- my mother and a friend of mine whose mother was also some kind of programmer/data analyst. Later in life I was a little surprised to find the field was overwhelmingly dominated by men. I guess it's not surprising I found this wrong at an intuitive level.

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> I knew already that there was a huge divide in salary and culture between the highly paid software engineers at coastal startups + FAANG companies and all the folks that run critical infrastructure for state and local governments, health systems, and boring enterprise companies If gender differences in attitudes to risk are true (at least to some extent) then the difference is explainable, e.g. startups are high risk/reward hence attract males; government low risk/reward will attract females.

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I work on cutting edge stuff involving LLMs for big tech. I’m paid well. My work has essentially no real-world utility as I define it - materially improving something important for at least one person in the real world. Engineers like the ones you describe have more positive impact on the world in one day than I have had in the several years that I’ve been doing this. I often dream about leaving big tech entirely and working solely on legacy software in an overlooked but important domain. I guess the grass is always greener and all that.

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