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The main political realization I had with growing up lower class, still live in poorer areas, and …

The main political realization I had with growing up lower class, still live in poorer areas, and making it to being high income is that basing government programs around income is terrible policy. 1. It's extremely unfair 2. It punishes those working to get ahead 3. It creates 'welfare cliffs' where people become worse off for getting jobs. Losing Medicaid is the best example of this. 4. It makes the program exponentially more expensive to maintain because you have to hire people to track who gets it and who doesn't, look for fraud, monitor for when the income threshold needs changed, etc.. It's just terrible policy all around. We learned this during covid. It's so much easier to write people a check and tax the the high earners more to make up for them getting a check.

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It’s the same system California is putting in place with income-based energy billing. Income-based billing is rife for abuse!

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I don't remember all that well but I think there aren't really sharp welfare cliffs with financial aid. The expected contribution of you and your family is subtracted from the total cost, and you are eligible for aid to pay the rest. The money you get from working is supposed to be more than your financial aid deduction anyway. So say if you made an extra $10k, it ought to reduce your financial aid by less than that. >It makes the program exponentially more expensive to maintain because you have to hire people to track who gets it and who doesn't, look for fraud, monitor for when the income threshold needs changed, etc.. We already have a system for that. It's called the IRS. The cost of a basic fraud detection system is less than the actual fraud would be of course. They have to worry about things like people enrolling and never going to class. >It's just terrible policy all around. We …

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What we learned from COVID is that it's absolutely disastrous to send everyone a check, because most of that money gets stolen. Better to give away resources that are valuable to consume but expensive to transact in. And what we learned from taxing high earners is that the highest earners hide their money and don't pay the expected taxes.

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