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Publicly traded companies make money by creating value and selling products or services

Publicly traded companies make money by creating value and selling products or services. At least, the good companies that actually sell something (you'll find a bunch of them don't do crap or are just outright scams). Take Apple or Coca Cola for example: They have well established lines of products and lines of business. You know people will keep buying iPhones and MacBooks and AirPods and whatever else Apple makes. You know people will keep buying Coca Cola drinks forever and ever. The popular blockchains do not create any intrinsic value (Looking at Bitcoin and Ethereum). They are heavy and cumbersome and can't handle planetary scale. Some blockchain solutions promise secure, fee-less transfers (for example IOTA and NANO). In my opinion, those blockchains at least partially implement the true promise of Crypto that, if successful, would be able to replace the existing financial system which is extremely wasteful. Just think about how much money it costs to implement FIAT: You have to print it, which is very expensive (both notes and coins). …

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> For every dollar you make on crypto, somone loses a dollar. If that's not true of the stock market, why would that be true of crypto?

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You're basically just describing fee-less digital currency. The problem is that achieving the fee-less part by using a blockchain makes some extremely undesirable tradeoffs. To name a few: -Money laundering becomes impossible to prevent when no entity has control over identity verification of the users. -All transactions are public, so normal users who won't be trying to lie about their identity lose all financial privacy. -Undoing transactions due to fraud or simple error becomes extremely cumbersome and ultimately requires re-centralization of authority that crypto supposedly was created to avoid. Digital fiat transactions operating in the current financial system are the best of all worlds, and unsurprisingly they are already extremely common.

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> Publicly traded companies make money by creating value and selling products or services. But their stock price is (mostly) independent of that. It is indeed true that at least with short-term trading, your gain is someone's loss, and vice versa. There is a difference between cryptocurrency and companies, but there is little difference between trading in cryptocurrency, and trading in traditional company stocks.

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Absolutely totally utterly fee-less is unrealistic. Operating the network costs something . Visa/MC get to take their cut, why should a replacement system be run as a charity? that's not sustainable. What's your opinion of Solana?

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