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effingwewtHNSource authorApr 25, 2023

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When the cost-cutting measures and hiring freezes began I tried warning again and was told 'its not …

… When the cost-cutting measures and hiring freezes began I tried warning again and was told 'its not a hiring freeze at Uber, we are fine...just stopped hiring for certain departments (definition of a hiring freeze)'. Then Twitter began the firing dominoes and here we are. Thing is it was their company culture and management that made this happen. Unreal perks, infantilization of the workforce, telling them how important they are, how they are changing the world, they are the 10x programmer. I can't believe our workforce is going through this again only 20 years later. Seems housing is headed the same way. We need protections for people, not companies. This is going to keeo happening unless we stop it.

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brataoHNApr 25, 2023

As a fellow developer who has been passionate about open-source programming since childhood, I was disgusted in this last hiring bubble how condescending and disrespectful the developers were towards other professions, which is disappointing. My general feeling was that it elevated developers to a seemingly different caste of "special" people, and here in my country (Brazil) there was advertisements everywhere about how you can study a couple of weeks and get a Top 1% salary.

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naravaraHNApr 25, 2023

> I tried warning people- here on HN the sentiment was 'we are indisposable'. Maybe if you were actually any good. I reckon at least 60% of these bootcamp alumni were just dead weight. I've interviewed so many people who "learned to code" but had no meaningful logical reasoning or problem solving skills. They could maybe understand syntax, but for the most part they just have some basic familiarity with various frameworks and tools. They don't know how any of it actually works. Experienced developers are often mediocre communicators, so it's not even like they'd be able to explain what needs to be done clearly enough for people without problem solving skills of their own to run with the ball once its been handed to them. Developers are there for their programming skills, not pedagogical ones, so it's just not a realistic staffing model to be this way.

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WastingMyTime89HNApr 25, 2023

I agree with you it’s in a lot of way similar to the dotcom bubble but the issue seems to me simpler than you make it seems. Propped by an easy access to cheap investment fonds, companies massively over hired developers to work on projets which have actually no value. The massive demand leads to under qualified people being hired. The current layoff is a return to a sustainable situation. And even then if you look at the number for the entire market we are not even back to a prepandemic number.

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