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I love my customer's maintenance department, they're unusually thorough and attentive to …

… I love my customer's maintenance department, they're unusually thorough and attentive to preventative maintenance, greasing and oiling and replacing wear items, root-causing failures and keeping the machines in good working order for decades. But when you keep fixing each individual small part that breaks, eventually the market moves on and you have to throw all the replaceable parts away and start over. The process requirements haven't changed, the weldments and castings aren't broken, it's just that you can't replace a failed servo drive or Core 2 motherboard or ISA card because the supply chain gave up on them 10 years ago. There's no great advantage of Windows 10 LTSC and a 64-bit Arm controller over Windows 98 with 56002 ISA cards except that I can buy the former today and I can't buy the latter because no one makes them anymore. There is no control OS or hardware supply chain that lasts as long as military, industrial, or scientific equipment can be made to last. …

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Would you expect a 20-year-old MacOS to run on a modern MacBook? Why not? Would you expect a 20-year-old Linux to install just fine on a modern PC? I remind you that this was the era of RHEL 3! I had trouble getting RHEL 6 running in a virtual machine just recently. Meanwhile XP will run on most modern PCs, it’s just not supported . That means no security patches. The mistake here is not Microsoft’s. The mistake is your organisation’s for buying a half-million-dollar device with no support plan from the vendor for its control OS.

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Any reason communication with these kinds of machines hasn't been built on top of something like CAN or Ethernet?

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The trick is to make the controller board swappable and an independent set of products. E.g.: If you make 30 different kinds of industrial machines, have one controller board as an additional product for a total of 31 SKUs. When the controller board is too old and no longer supported, make a new SKU that is backwards compatible with the old machines. E.g.: Some televisions allowed the entire controller board to be swapped out, upgrading the TV's OS and HDMI ports with new capabilities. The panel and the case stayed the same. Similarly, a CNC router or whatever is "just" some analogue wires that go into a digital board. Make the digital board swappable. A similar mistake that I see is customers that are used to "archive grade paper" asking me how long digital backup tapes last. That's the wrong question! . The important thing is to be able to copy from old tapes to new tapes with full fid…

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