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The absolutely first thing I do at every company and on every project is ask if I can block russia, …

… The absolutely first thing I do at every company and on every project is ask if I can block russia, china and belarussian IP space, and add all of their ASNs to the bogon list if we run our own bgp. They are never customers to the businesses of the companies I work for, but they sure manage to harm our businesses. Russisns mostly try to disrupt and steal because thats their foreign policy. Chinese just try to destroy and censor. Worked at a company which hosted presentations, one of their 5 million presentations was critical of China. We received over 10,000 phone calls and close to a million emails in two days, and a sustained 10gbps ddos attack for a week. Letting russia and china on the internet was a massive security mistake we should rectify. The world spends literally BILLIONS because chinarussia are frankly assholes online.

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IJ

Doesn’t deserve the downvotes. All of it is truth. So much garbage connections originate from the mentioned countries. Worst yet, these countries have poor connections in some cases and generate so many retires that also waste resources.

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AR

I would add Turkey to that list. Many many years ago I had a kind of popular podcast about computer graphics and all of my grief was coming from Turkey. After I banned all of Turkey‘s IPs my drama was over. Occasionally I would get an email from someone saying they couldn’t listen to the episodes and I would explain to them why their country is blocked and they would say it’s not fair, I couldn’t disagree, its not fair but such is life.

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GE

Just for a different perspective, here in the EU I get most of the attacks from US servers. Often times Google cloud or AWS. But we can't block the IP space of the US for obvious reasons

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In my experience running large sites most attack traffic has come from EU and US hosts such as Choopa/Vultr, OVH, Hetzner, AWS etc followed closely by major domestic ISPs like Comcast. Any traffic at all from BRICs has been pretty low. The post doesn't even mention any of the countries you whine about.

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DE

Wouldn't it be nice if all the ISPs got together and refused to route traffic from networks that ignored abuse complaints? I suppose that would put cloudflare and anyone else doing ddos mitigation out of business. When I worked at a small ISP and we would get complaints, we would block the user until we could reach them. Then let them online long enough to update their antivirus. I can't imagine Comcast committing to that, but it would be nice.

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IP

I’m interested to hear how you 1) block 2 Tbps of attack traffic 2) save $500k per month in bandwidth charges since blocking at the border means you have to pay for the incoming bandwidth

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TH

"Letting russia and china on the internet was a massive security mistake we should rectify. The world spends literally BILLIONS because chinarussia are frankly assholes online." - what a dumb comment, ignorance combined with indoctrination is a hell of a thing it seems

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> Letting russia and china on the internet was a massive security mistake we should rectify. Internet is decentralized in nature. Even if you tried to undo that, what's stopping anyone from bridging a non-CN/RU Intranet to CN/RU-Intranet. More importantly: who is to decide that? Should now a US-based organization dictate who EU/JP/Africa can communicate with? Applying such decisions at such a low level will only result in the balkanization of the Internet. And I totally agree with your approach, cost-reward of CN/RU links don't make sense for 99% of people. But blocking should *still* be optional (opt-in vs opt-out is another debate), becase for some (e.g. hardware, financial firms), the benefits of being able to communicate with China and Russia might outweigh the constant spam/attacks. On a general note, why do people constantly try to impose their perspective on others? "This is bad f…

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