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Let me elaborate: unless you are in the “start up phase” incurring startup costs , you are not …

… Let me elaborate: unless you are in the “start up phase” incurring startup costs , you are not required to follow section 174. I suspect the confusion is between how we use “startup” colloquially vs how the IRC uses “startup costs”. Once your business is up and running you are “carrying on” business, even if you aren't yet making a profit. You are only required to follow section 174 if you are choosing to classify your expenses as “startup costs” which in my experience would be very odd after the first year and even after the business is founded. Not an accountant of course, but nobody is going to tell me to pay taxes on revenue before expenses. And writing software does not automatically mean you are doing R&D. Not even in spirit. If you’re writing a script that speeds up part of your business and makes you more money, thats not “R&E”. It’s just work. EDIT2: > In the meantime, the Section 174 amendment should not cause established taxpayers to adjust their accounting methods when applying Section 162. …

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SI

This is what I've also heard from our CPA (that no one likes this and it shouldn't be happening), but since it's here and taxes are due in April, here we are.

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Again, I agree with everything you are saying in your edit. It's just not what my CPA is saying the actual tax code says anymore. Honestly my main reason for starting this discussion was a) to see if anyone else's professional advice (e.g. from a CPA) was different, and b) to hopefully drum up awareness so maybe in some roundabout fashion this gets changed.

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I don’t think your interpretation is correct. All R&E costs are now required to be capitalized. “Ordinary R&E” related to 162 doesn’t exist. If it’s any sort of R&E related expense, it’s technically supposed to be capitalized.

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