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I spent some time as a middle manager, talked way too much with friends in similar situations at …

I spent some time as a middle manager, talked way too much with friends in similar situations at other places and I learned the following: * It is very easy to be both very busy and do nothing useful at all. Just accept and schedule a bunch of meetings. * Your potential of improving things depends mostly on the C-level suite. Trying to get buy-in from other levels of management is a waste of time. * Middle managers are quite often recreating other orgs they aspire to without any thought if their prescriptions are suitable for their orgs. * The C-level are actually behaving more like individual contributors than managers. The CEO is typically working mostly on closing deals and attracting investors. * Lower level managers are often created from senior or valuable employees because a title change is the only way of rewarding them and using their experience * Some of the best managers are HR professionals, but they are completely sidelined. HR is working to protect the companies which for good and evil can clash with your goals. …

Original discussionExcess Management Is Costing the U.S. $3T Per Year (2016)376 source comments · at import
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> * Lower level managers are often created from senior or valuable employees because a title change is the only way of rewarding them and using their experience Ah, yes, because there's some made up BS chart in HR that shows how much each job pays. "Oh, we can't pay you more than $X." BS, you can - you just won't for some stupid made up reason.

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>>>>* Lower level managers are often created from senior or valuable employees because a title change is the only way of rewarding them and using their experience This is the part I’ll never understand. In order to give a larger (than managers) salary you will have to change the title. Why?

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>- Instead of introducing hierarchy, consider instead providing managers with experts in management as deputies. Recruit fresh MBAs or experienced HR professionals. This way they help instead of hindering. Genuinely losing my mind at how good of an idea this is. Imagine the effectiveness boost if even half of some large tech company's managers were instead engineers with a manager deputy. They'd probably be the next letter shoved into FAANG.

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These are all such good conclusions that it’s valuable to ask why any particular one wouldn’t apply for an organization.

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